it only took most of the day to kinda figure out what it is about all of what has gone on that bothers me the most..its just i feel like a failure for not being able to help him at all..no matter how many times i talked to him and told him exactly what was going on..we put up with everything he managed to pull and still let him back in the group and gave him more rules and guidelines and none of it worked.and now his only option is to go home where he cant be handled either and wont last long at all because he is always more than ready to blame something on his parents..he has said that his parents dont listen to him and he would rather be with us but he doesnt listen to us either..and i just dont know what else we could have done but there had to have been something..and even typing that bothers me because i alrady know he was given every chance possible and then some..it sucks..and i cant seem to stop feeling miserable..